AMC 10 · 2004 · #11

Grade 7 probability
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Problem
Two fair 8-sided dice, each with faces numbered 1 through 8, are rolled. Every face is equally likely to land on top. Find the probability that the product of the two top numbers is greater than their sum.

Pick an answer.

(A)
$\frac{1}{2}$
(B)
$\frac{47}{64}$
(C)
$\frac{3}{4}$
(D)
$\frac{55}{64}$
(E)
$\frac{7}{8}$

AMC 10 2004 problem © Mathematical Association of America (MAA AMC). Reproduced for educational use.

How to solve
Strategy Change Focus / Count the Complement

Counting every roll where the product beats the sum means chasing a lot of cases. It is far easier to count the opposite — the rolls where the product does NOT beat the sum (product ≤ sum) — and subtract from 64. That is the signature move of Tool #16 (Count the Complement), because the 'bad' rolls turn out to be a small, tidy family. Tool #4 (Introduce a Variable) lets us call the two rolls a and b so we can reason about ab versus a+b in general. Tool #2 (Make a Systematic List) then organizes the few bad rolls into two clean groups: rolls that include a 1, and the single roll (2,2).

1STEP 1

Set up the sample space

Call the two top numbers a and b, each from 1 to 8, so there are 64 equally likely ordered rolls.

a,b∈{1,2,…,8}, total outcomes=8 × 8=64
2STEP 2

Flip to the opposite question

Flip it: count the rolls that fail, where ab ≤ a+b, then subtract that small pile from 64.

#{ab > a+b}=64-#{ab ≤ a+b}
3STEP 3

Rolls that include a 1

If a die shows 1, the sum wins: 1 · b=b, but 1+b is bigger. That is 8+8-1=15 rolls.

a=1: 1 · b=b < 1+b. 8+8-1=15 rolls
4STEP 4

Rolls with both numbers at least 2

With both dice at least 2, only the tie (2,2) fails (2·2=4=2+2); every other pair has the product ahead — 1 bad roll.

(2,2): 2·2=4=2+2. a=2,b ≥ 3: b-2 ≥ 1. a,b ≥ 3: 2b-3 ≥ 3
5STEP 5

Count the good rolls and divide

The 15 rolls with a 1 plus the tie (2,2) give 16 failures, so 64-16=48 rolls win: probability 3/4.

16 not-win, 64-16=48 win, 48/64=3/4 (C)
Answer
3/4
The bad rolls are easy to picture: the 15 rolls with a 1 form the top row and left column of an 8 × 8 grid (they share the corner (1,1)), plus one extra dot at (2,2) — clearly 16 of the 64 squares. That leaves 48, and 48/64=3/4 is one of the offered choices, a good sign. It also feels right that the product usually wins: for most pairs of numbers from 1 to 8, multiplying makes a much bigger result than adding, so a probability well above 1/2 is expected, ruling out (A).
💡Key takeaway

Count the easy opposite: the only rolls where the product does not beat the sum are the ones with a 1 (fifteen of them) plus the tie (2,2), so 64-16=48 out of 64 win, giving 3/4.

  • Set up the sample space
  • Flip to the opposite question
  • Rolls that include a 1
  • Rolls with both numbers at least 2
  • Count the good rolls and divide